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Post by Stephen Day on Mar 4, 2019 5:35:46 GMT
Since Nyx is serving as the main adversary in Avengers: No Road Home I grew curious about the Nyx from in original Greek mytholgy she obviously comes from. I was surprised to find out that Nyx is the creator being in Greek mythology. The darkness before everything existed was Nyx herself and, according to some stories, she was the one that brought all into existence. Now having learned that she doesn't seem so overpowered as I had thought before.
I always like when stories such as this cause me to seek put new information on something. Anyone else had the same sort of experience
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Post by achilles on Mar 4, 2019 13:19:27 GMT
Since Nyx is serving as the main adversary in Avengers: No Road Home I grew curious about the Nyx from in original Greek mytholgy she obviously comes from. I was surprised to find out that Nyx is the creator being in Greek mythology. The darkness before everything existed was Nyx herself and, according to some stories, she was the one that brought all into existence. Now having learned that she doesn't seem so overpowered as I had thought before. I always like when stories such as this cause me to seek put new information on something. Anyone else had the same sort of experience Not with Greek myth, or Greek and Roman religion practice. It's...ah...kind of my thing, (see username). But certainly true for things like Germanic/Norse mythology, or Chinese. |
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Post by glaeken on Mar 4, 2019 16:49:53 GMT
Seems similar to what DC did to Hecate during the Witching Hour event. Make her more powerful than what the representation had been.
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Post by Amoebas on Mar 4, 2019 17:16:03 GMT
There's something that has been bothering me about Marvel villains lately - namely how uber-powerful they've become. I understand the stakes need to get higher, but I can't help wondering...
What if Nyx returned back in the 60's? The 70's? There would have been no stopping her! The heroes never would have stood a chance. Galactus was only beaten because the Watcher interfered - Nyx would walk all over a Watcher based on what I've seen of her so far.
Today: Nyx and her crew. That Black Order team or whomever Thanos's thralls are. All supremely powerful.
Then: The Melter, Radioactive Man, Plantman, the Vulture, Mr. Hyde - they're all jokes now BUT they gave the heroes a hard time.
I guess I just liked things better when there wasn't a universe ending threat 8 times a year. (DC too).
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Post by chap22 on Mar 4, 2019 17:28:00 GMT
There's something that has been bothering me about Marvel villains lately - namely how uber-powerful they've become. I understand the stakes need to get higher, but I can't help wondering... What if Nyx returned back in the 60's? The 70's? There would have been no stopping her! The heroes never would have stood a chance. Galactus was only beaten because the Watcher interfered - Nyx would walk all over a Watcher based on what I've seen of her so far. Today: Nyx and her crew. That Black Order team or whomever Thanos's thralls are. All supremely powerful. Then: The Melter, Radioactive Man, Plantman, the Vulture, Mr. Hyde - they're all jokes now BUT they gave the heroes a hard time. I guess I just liked things better when there wasn't a universe ending threat 8 times a year. (DC too). Oh come on now...let's not get to COMPLETELY over-exaggerating the differences here. Pretty sure that Korvac, the Cosmic Cube, and a bunch of other uber-powerful villains/weapons were around in the 60s and 70s too. And there were plenty of other folks like Nightmare, Dormammu, Mephisto, etc. around back then who were on a slightly different plane than the Melter and Plant-Man.  |
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Post by achilles on Mar 4, 2019 19:11:55 GMT
Seems similar to what DC did to Hecate during the Witching Hour event. Make her more powerful than what the representation had been. Well, her reputation in ancient Greece was perhaps a bit more powerful than you'd think today. |
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Post by sdsichero on Mar 4, 2019 20:38:59 GMT
Not with Greek myth, or Greek and Roman religion practice. It's...ah...kind of my thing, (see username). But certainly true for things like Germanic/Norse mythology, or Chinese. Oh I thought it was just cause you were a heel |
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Post by achilles on Mar 4, 2019 20:54:35 GMT
Not with Greek myth, or Greek and Roman religion practice. It's...ah...kind of my thing, (see username). But certainly true for things like Germanic/Norse mythology, or Chinese. Oh I thought it was just cause you were a heel No, I'm EVIL because I'm a heel. |
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Post by glaeken on Mar 4, 2019 21:16:15 GMT
Seems similar to what DC did to Hecate during the Witching Hour event. Make her more powerful than what the representation had been. Well, her reputation in ancient Greece was perhaps a bit more powerful than you'd think today. Probably true. Even Zeus had great respect for her. He basically treated her as an equal and left her to do her own thing. |
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Post by Stephen Day on Mar 4, 2019 22:19:20 GMT
There's something that has been bothering me about Marvel villains lately - namely how uber-powerful they've become. I understand the stakes need to get higher, but I can't help wondering... What if Nyx returned back in the 60's? The 70's? There would have been no stopping her! The heroes never would have stood a chance. Galactus was only beaten because the Watcher interfered - Nyx would walk all over a Watcher based on what I've seen of her so far. Today: Nyx and her crew. That Black Order team or whomever Thanos's thralls are. All supremely powerful. Then: The Melter, Radioactive Man, Plantman, the Vulture, Mr. Hyde - they're all jokes now BUT they gave the heroes a hard time. I guess I just liked things better when there wasn't a universe ending threat 8 times a year. (DC too). Oh come on now...let's not get to COMPLETELY over-exaggerating the differences here. Pretty sure that Korvac, the Cosmic Cube, and a bunch of other uber-powerful villains/weapons were around in the 60s and 70s too. And there were plenty of other folks like Nightmare, Dormammu, Mephisto, etc. around back then who were on a slightly different plane than the Melter and Plant-Man. There's also the fact that some Marvel characters (Odin comes to mind right away) are less powerful than they were in the 60s and 70s. |
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Post by Stephen Day on Mar 4, 2019 22:20:48 GMT
Probably true. Even Zeus had great respect for her. He basically treated her as an equal and left her to do her own thing. It depends on the story. There are some stories apparently where Zeus is shown to be afraid of her because she's a lot more powerful than he is. |
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Post by achilles on Mar 4, 2019 22:41:51 GMT
Oh come on now...let's not get to COMPLETELY over-exaggerating the differences here. Pretty sure that Korvac, the Cosmic Cube, and a bunch of other uber-powerful villains/weapons were around in the 60s and 70s too. And there were plenty of other folks like Nightmare, Dormammu, Mephisto, etc. around back then who were on a slightly different plane than the Melter and Plant-Man. There's also the fact that some Marvel characters (Odin comes to mind right away) are less powerful than they were in the 60s and 70s. If you were me, you'd probably had a picture in your mind, (no doubt reinforced by Marvel's use of the gods), that Odin came first...but no, THOR was a very ancient god, and Odin only came around later in Scandinavian myth. |
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Post by achilles on Mar 4, 2019 22:42:30 GMT
There's also the fact that some Marvel characters (Odin comes to mind right away) are less powerful than they were in the 60s and 70s. If you were me, you'd probably had a picture in your mind, (no doubt reinforced by Marvel's use of the gods), that Odin came first...but no, THOR was a very ancient god, and Odin only came around later in Scandinavian myth. Found that one out from a Teaching Company course on the Vikings. |
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Post by sdsichero on Mar 5, 2019 0:34:00 GMT
Since Nyx is serving as the main adversary in Avengers: No Road Home I grew curious about the Nyx from in original Greek mytholgy she obviously comes from. I was surprised to find out that Nyx is the creator being in Greek mythology. The darkness before everything existed was Nyx herself and, according to some stories, she was the one that brought all into existence. Now having learned that she doesn't seem so overpowered as I had thought before. I always like when stories such as this cause me to seek put new information on something. Anyone else had the same sort of experience I never really was inspired by comic stories to go read up on myths, though Simonson's run on Thor did make me look up some encyclopedia type info on some characters. I've been into myth and folktales for a long time, though my memory is kind of bad haha. I did enjoy the Marvel "Marvel Universe"-style book about the mythological figures though. Fun read.
Thor & Hercules: Encyclopædia Mythologica (2008)
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Post by achilles on Mar 7, 2019 21:09:29 GMT
If you want trippy and fun myth, try Chinese or Indian stuff, the Mahabharata, or Journey to the West. They're fun, (very, very, very, very long though, a copy of Journey to the West can be around 2,500 pages depending on how abridged it is).
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