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Post by sdsichero on Apr 17, 2020 0:37:17 GMT
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Post by sdsichero on Apr 21, 2020 20:16:04 GMT
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Post by sdsichero on May 14, 2020 20:34:56 GMT
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Post by sdsichero on May 19, 2020 22:50:17 GMT
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Post by achilles on May 20, 2020 0:52:57 GMT
Yeah, I was wondering if she'd leave; that was a pretty hardcore moment, a real gut check for her. Basically, she was just too slender and waif-like to survive as the main actor on that sort of show. As for recasting, why bother? Superhero shows are basically well past their sell-point by now, unless she show brings something so different we haven't seen it yet. And the Arrowverse is now getting to the why bother point.
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Post by Amoebas on May 20, 2020 1:25:47 GMT
Stargirl was pretty good - but more importantly my 13 year old girl was glued to the TV the whole hour (and she rarely ever sits with us anymore when we watch TV).
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Post by achilles on May 20, 2020 12:20:20 GMT
For what it's worth, here's my review of Stargirl. Summing it up, a promising start, and a different beast than the CW stuff. Wilson elevates it beyond what it should be, that's true, but Bassinger does her best in what was always going to be a tricky start. She should come more into her own later, as the series moves beyond it's beginnings. Beyond that, I liked the tone and setting, set mostly in Blue Valley, as in the comic. Of course here, production design can take hold as it does, with both Blue Valley and the Staff itself becoming virtual characters in and of themselves. Blue Valley is the on the surface wholesome midwest town stuck in the 50s, and of course shows a sinister underbelly almost immediately. The villains are...obvious. Sorry, there's no other way to put it. Even before you see one one of the opening bad guys you know this town is bad news, (even if you hadn't read the comic it is based (loosely) on. So, there's more than a little telegraphing going on here, but it doesn't really detract from the sheer fun of the first show. Yes, there's some comedy in it. If you saw the trailer where Starman talks to Wilson about passing on his legacy, the staff...you've seen most of the comedy. I admit, I would LOVE to see a JSA related series on TV where the JSA DOESN'T all or mostly die in the opening act. Especially THIS one, which doesn't make any sense at all. How in the hell are THESE guys beating the JSA, and doing it so badly? It's just the Justice League Antarctica beating the Big Seven JL; it just should never happen. Looking at the Injustice Society's line up, there doesn't seem to be any way for that to happen. Only Brainwave and Grundy, (a barely seen CG character here), would be capable of challenging even just one of the more powerful members of the JSA, and their record isn't all that great. Oh well, easily forgivable. I'd have to watch the thing again to figure out everything that happened in the opening scene, and I won't spoil what I did see here. Just say it serves it's purpose to drive later events. There is a bit of a twist here that departs from the comic, and makes sense in the hero trope sort of way. It involves Courtney's dad, and that's all I'll say here. I think I may like this version of her parentage better than the comic one. A word about the effects; they're pretty good for TV, and overall the first episode plays more than a movie than a CW show, which of course it isn't. I don't get the DC Universe then next day CW thing, but since I don't get DC Universe, I'll take it. Promising, but I wait for more shows. I will leave you with this, throughout the show, Pat constantly says the JSA died saving the world. But...they just didn't. Or really...ANYTHING! They lost and died, and the world didn't end. In fact, there's no indication the Injustice Society did anything after winning. I'll grant that Pat may have been putting forth a best face for Courtney, but he really seemed to believe it. What's the back story on that fight? What happened after? Is this a world without other superheroes? Courtney seemed pretty blase about the idea of superheroes, as it seems to be a longstanding thing in her universe. And while some of the OG and second generation JSA are accounted for, with some making no sense as they would have been able to take on the Injustice Society all by their lonesomes...some were not there. {Spoiler} I think you can account for Alan and Jay. Green fire is visible throughout that fight, though Alan himself is never seen apart from the photo Courtney later sees. Jay's helmet is seen but not the rest of him. Wildcat dies on screen, as do Hourman and Dr. Midnite, was that the Shade dragging him away? Power Girl is not seen, and probably for the best, she probably can't co-exist with this Stargirl, as she'd pretty much take Stargirl's role here, and would just increase any questions about how the Injustice Society could win. Neither is Huntress seen or referenced.
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Post by Amoebas on May 20, 2020 17:32:30 GMT
That was the Wizard, not Shade.
And it's the JSA, not the Super Squad so I wouldn't expect to see Karen or Helena. Yes Sylvester replaced Ted in this continuity but that's just to move the story along. Not a big deal to me.
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Post by achilles on May 20, 2020 20:14:23 GMT
That was the Wizard, not Shade. And it's the JSA, not the Super Squad so I wouldn't expect to see Karen or Helena. Yes Sylvester replaced Ted in this continuity but that's just to move the story along. Not a big deal to me. Hmm, they'd better explain who the Injustice Society members are, and what their deal is. Why is Brainwave a dick? I get why Sportsmaster is, and his reveal was a bit...easy to get...IF you knew there was a Sportsmaster. My point being, since these are all fairly obscure characters, at some point early on, they're going to have to give the audience the scoop. even for fans, since they're probably changing some stuff. BTW, which Hourman is Hulk Jr.? I would hope they don't waste him on the one who dies... I don't think there's a difference in this continuity between the JSA and it's various subgroupings, and in any event, PG at least is a longstanding member of the JSA itself...I'm not sure there is a Super Squad distinction here. Still, I agree you won't see them here, and probably for good reason. PG pretty much was the original young recruit to the JSA, filling Stargirl's role in a couple of senses, but way overpowering her, not a good look in a Stargirl show. Plus, if they put her in there, they'd have to job her out, or at least they inevitably would. Don't know how they're going to explain away Dr. Fate though. Thankfully, they left out the Spectre; just not the right show for him either.
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Post by SporkBot on May 22, 2020 1:45:09 GMT
I thought the first episode was alright. I wasn't as bored as I was during Batwoman's pilot.
Not hooked, but it's worth another episode or two.
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Post by achilles on Jun 8, 2020 13:34:49 GMT
Yeah...er...well, there is a Looney Tunes remake or whatever set for HBO Max. Which is weird enough, I suppose. Weirder still is the much vaunted fact that they taken away Elmer Fudd's shotgun because, guns = bad or something. Of course, they gave him a huge...scythe? WTF? Anyway, he chases after Bugs swinging that thing. And of course blowing people up with dynamite is also just fine...so I don't know what they think they accomplished. Producers....this is...SPARTA...er, I mean LOONEY TUNES!
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Post by Amoebas on Jun 8, 2020 17:01:55 GMT
Yeah...er...well, there is a Looney Tunes remake or whatever set for HBO Max. Which is weird enough, I suppose. Weirder still is the much vaunted fact that they taken away Elmer Fudd's shotgun because, guns = bad or something. Of course, they gave him a huge...scythe? WTF? Anyway, he chases after Bugs swinging that thing. And of course blowing people up with dynamite is also just fine...so I don't know what they think they accomplished. Producers....this is...SPARTA...er, I mean LOONEY TUNES! I watched them and apart the voices not being quite right, they've been pretty good. As for the lack of guns, I didn't even notice that until you brought it up - and suddenly my enjoyment for the latest cartoon just went up.
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Post by achilles on Jun 8, 2020 18:23:30 GMT
Yeah...er...well, there is a Looney Tunes remake or whatever set for HBO Max. Which is weird enough, I suppose. Weirder still is the much vaunted fact that they taken away Elmer Fudd's shotgun because, guns = bad or something. Of course, they gave him a huge...scythe? WTF? Anyway, he chases after Bugs swinging that thing. And of course blowing people up with dynamite is also just fine...so I don't know what they think they accomplished. Producers....this is...SPARTA...er, I mean LOONEY TUNES! I watched them and apart the voices not being quite right, they've been pretty good. As for the lack of guns, I didn't even notice that until you brought it up - and suddenly my enjoyment for the latest cartoon just went up. So...the message is...violence is absolutely great so long as you don't use a gun for it? Things that are basically swords and dynamite are fine, but guns aren't because...reasons?
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Post by achilles on Jun 8, 2020 20:27:46 GMT
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Post by Johnny Smith on Jun 8, 2020 20:29:09 GMT
Hartley Sawyer fired
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