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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 12:46:44 GMT
Well done, DC. Well done.
Synder's story was a pleasant surprise. The rest of the issue was pretty good, too.
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Post by mothman on Mar 27, 2019 13:36:52 GMT
It was good,but not really monumental as I expected.
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Post by noctournem on Mar 27, 2019 16:21:36 GMT
not sure if we dodged a bendis bullet, but it was a good issue.
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Post by Amoebas on Mar 28, 2019 1:43:24 GMT
Quick Takes
Longest Case (Snyder/Capullo) - Lots of fun with a wink to some former Detective characters. (4 outa 5) Manufacture For Use (Smith/Lee) - cute but I feel like I've seen this story before. (3) The Legend of Knute Brody (Dini/Nguyen) - It's easy to guess the trick of the tale, but it's still a great time getting there (4) The Batman's Design (Ellis/Cloonan) - Meh (2) Return to Crime Alley (O'Neil/Epting) - feels unnecessary (and way to blab the secret Leslie) (2) Heretic (Priest/Adams) - Adams has got to stop inking his own work (2) I Know (BB/Maleev) - Implausable premise and - ah screw it - it's Bendis and it sucks. (1) The Last Crime in Gotham (Johns/Jones) - could have been a fun story but Kelley Jones's art if just too damn detracting (1). The Precedent (Tynion/Martinez-Bueno) - great story from start to finish (4) Batman's Greatest Case (King/Daniel/Jones) - Well done indeed. (4) Medieval (Tomasi/Mahnke) - Worth the price of admission all by itself (5)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 13:55:50 GMT
Quick TakesLongest Case (Snyder/Capullo) - Lots of fun with a wink to some former Detective characters. (4 outa 5) Manufacture For Use (Smith/Lee) - cute but I feel like I've seen this story before. (3) The Legend of Knute Brody (Dini/Nguyen) - It's easy to guess the trick of the tale, but it's still a great time getting there (4) The Batman's Design (Ellis/Cloonan) - Meh (2) Return to Crime Alley (O'Neil/Epting) - feels unnecessary (and way to blab the secret Leslie) (2) Heretic (Priest/Adams) - Adams has got to stop inking his own work (2) I Know (BB/Maleev) - Implausable premise and - ah screw it - it's Bendis and it sucks. (1) The Last Crime in Gotham (Johns/Jones) - could have been a fun story but Kelley Jones's art if just too damn detracting (1). The Precedent (Tynion/Martinez-Bueno) - great story from start to finish (4) Batman's Greatest Case (King/Daniel/Jones) - Well done indeed. (4) Medieval (Tomasi/Mahnke) - Worth the price of admission all by itself (5) I agree about Adams work, but I would still rate that higher than a two. I would not honestly rate any story in that issue lower than a three. I like Smith's story, except it contradicted Batman: Year Two.
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Post by chap22 on Mar 28, 2019 14:51:14 GMT
Going off of Amoebas's format:
Longest Case (Snyder/Capullo) - yeah, I really liked this one; Capullo's art seemed a little different than usual, but still recognizably him, and the story was fun (4/5) Manufacture For Use (Smith/Lee) - some of Smith's word puns didn't match the art in a particular panel very well a couple times, but all in all this was pretty fun (3.5/5) The Legend of Knute Brody (Dini/Nguyen) - probably my second favorite story of the lot, I miss this creative team from their Streets of Gotham/Detective days (5/5) The Batman's Design (Ellis/Cloonan) - I'm just never gonna be much of a fan of Ellis's writing style; this was pretty blah tbh (2/5) Return to Crime Alley (O'Neil/Epting) - sadly, I HATED this, just failed for me on every level (1/5) Heretic (Priest/Adams) - yeah, Adams's art wasn't great, and while I loved it in Black Panther, I'm completely over Priest's multi-cut narrative style now; it's hard to make me not care about a Ra's/LoA story, but this one did it (2/5) I Know (Bendis/Maleev) - other than the art (I will always hate Maleev, that's just how it is), I actually dug this one, it was a believable future Bat-Penguin tale with a "showdown" between 2 old coots trying to prove who's the smartest since they can't battle physically anymore; Bendis reined his dialogue in fairly well and it "sounded" fine to me (3.5/5) The Last Crime in Gotham (Johns/Jones) - and good Lord I hate Jones's art even more than Maleev's...blargh; beyond that, Johns tried to cram too much into too small a space, leaving us with a "mystery" where the villain reveal means nothing b/c he never existed before he's revealed; dumb and ugly (1.5/5). The Precedent (Tynion/Martinez-Bueno) - and this was absolutely my favorite of the bunch, but that's probably to be expected b/c it was so Dick/Robin-centric; Tynion really nails this one (5/5) Batman's Greatest Case (King/Daniel/Jones) - the idea here was fine, but Jesus Christ, the word bubbles...who the fuck does King think he is, Bendis? I will say that a good bit of the dialogue was actually pretty damn fun (Babs in particular was a treat, Huntress and Cassandra's brief chat was funny, and most of the Dick/Damian stuff was perfect, other than Damian dissing Dick's detective skills and Dick just taking it...he's probably the 2nd best Detective of the bunch and ABSOLUTELY no worse than 3rd, depending on your personal stance on Tim), but JESUS there was SO MUCH of it cluttering up the panels...although that may be a good thing considering the art was by Tony Daniel ; I'd like to go higher, but just can't do better than (3/5) Medieval (Tomasi/Mahnke) - this honestly didn't do much for me; I don't care who the Arkham Knight is, and this didn't feel up to Tomasi's usuallyhigh standard; art was nice though (3.5/5)
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Post by Zechs on Mar 29, 2019 1:28:12 GMT
I think King did what he did because he crammed a 20 page story into 8 pages.
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Post by Zechs on Mar 29, 2019 1:30:16 GMT
Snyder, Smith, Tynion, and Dini had the best tails. King's was just fanservice to the Bat Family at this current crux. Johns story would have benefited with better characters around Bruce. I still have no idea who they were supposed to be in that future tale. The most shocking thing about the comic was that Bendis's was--- good. His best work at DC so far.
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Post by sdsichero on Mar 29, 2019 3:10:46 GMT
Bendis's was--- good. His best work at DC so far. Ban yourself from the forums
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Post by chap22 on Mar 29, 2019 6:08:36 GMT
I think King did what he did because he crammed a 20 page story into 8 pages. No he didn't. That story was maybe 4 or 5 pages stretched out to 8 (any other writer and at the very least Dick, Babs and Tim would've all solved that "mystery" by page 2), but he then crammed 20 pages' worth of dialogue into 8 to cover that fact.
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Post by Zechs on Mar 29, 2019 22:17:08 GMT
I think King did what he did because he crammed a 20 page story into 8 pages. No he didn't. That story was maybe 4 or 5 pages stretched out to 8 (any other writer and at the very least Dick, Babs and Tim would've all solved that "mystery" by page 2), but he then crammed 20 pages' worth of dialogue into 8 to cover that fact. Oh there could have been much more with all that writing. He crammed it all in as much he could to maximize it all.
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Post by chap22 on Mar 29, 2019 23:43:28 GMT
No he didn't. That story was maybe 4 or 5 pages stretched out to 8 (any other writer and at the very least Dick, Babs and Tim would've all solved that "mystery" by page 2), but he then crammed 20 pages' worth of dialogue into 8 to cover that fact. Oh there could have been much more with all that writing. He crammed it all in as much he could to maximize it all. Just b/c it could've been doesn't mean it should've been. You've clearly been brainwashed by too much Bendis.
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Post by Zechs on Mar 30, 2019 3:12:31 GMT
Oh there could have been much more with all that writing. He crammed it all in as much he could to maximize it all. Just b/c it could've been doesn't mean it should've been. You've clearly been brainwashed by too much Bendis. No, I haven't. I'm still typing in one post instead of dragging it out in seven different posts with splash pages mixed in-between with banter.
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