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Post by Amoebas on Oct 19, 2019 15:28:30 GMT
 SUPERMAN: HEROES #1
written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS, MATT FRACTION, JODY HOUSER, and GREG RUCKA
art by KEVIN MAGUIRE, STEVE LIEBER, MIKE PERKINS and others
cover by BRYAN HITCH
Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, the staff of the Daily Planet, even the Justice League—their lives all changed when Superman revealed his secret identity to the world! This unique Superman experience explores what the identity of Clark Kent meant to those close to him—and what their relationship to Superman will be in the future. All the rules are about to change—and it all starts here.
The dream team of writers Brian Michael Bendis, Matt Fraction, Greg Rucka, and Jody Houser team up for this amazing special, with art anchored by DC legend Kevin Maguire, plus sequences focusing on each corner of the Superman universe by artists Steve Lieber (Superman’s Pal, Jimmy Olsen) and Mike Perkins (Lois Lane).
ONE-SHOT
ON SALE 01.29.20
$5.99 US | 48 PAGES
FC|DCFucking Bendis.  Bad enough what he's already done to Supes, Krypton and the Legion, now he's going to rerun his "the secret is out" bullshit like he did when he made Daredevil unreadable (which was reversed when he (finally) left the book). This crap never lasts - so why do it? Fucking Bendis. |
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Post by SporkBot on Oct 19, 2019 17:00:02 GMT
I haven't exactly been thrilled with his Action, but...yeah, can't say I'm giddy about this, either. Seems like, as with past gimmicks since 2011, they're really counting on the readers not already familiar with something they've done before. Maybe Bendis really wants to put his spin on this, even if it's a repeat. Hey, maybe this'll be resolved by a repeat of Mxyzptlk covering for Supes by posing as Clark for a while...y'know, so they can repeat it.
I suppose there are some interesting directions this could go in, potentially, but...
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Post by sdsichero on Oct 19, 2019 21:18:34 GMT
I haven't exactly been thrilled with his Action, but...yeah, can't say I'm giddy about this, either. Seems like, as with past gimmicks since 2011, they're really counting on the readers not already familiar with something they've done before. Maybe Bendis really wants to put his spin on this, even if it's a repeat. Hey, maybe this'll be resolved by a repeat of Mxyzptlk covering for Supes by posing as Clark for a while...y'know, so they can repeat it. I suppose there are some interesting directions this could go in, potentially, but... They'll undo it with Clark making a deal with Lady Blaze and breaking up with Lois |
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Post by jjwyatt on Oct 19, 2019 22:47:41 GMT
Fucking Bendis.
On arrival, he says he wants to write Superman, and proceeds to toss out whatever he saw when he showed. (I'm surprised someone told him Clark and Lois are married and have a son, since it's certain he didn't read anything written before his run.)
"There's a kid? I have a brand new idea? Let's artificially age him, and get rid of him. Maybe show him getting on a bus."
(And what's the point of aging Jon when he also is given Conner, because we really need two teen Superboys?)
"Here's another idea that hasn't been done in a couple years, and I haven't done it myself for a little while either. The hero is going to reveal his identity to the public."
etc etc etc
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Post by elikatz on Oct 22, 2019 0:31:48 GMT
This is not a defense of Bendis specifically. (I don't read Superman.) But recently, I came across an interesting interview with Gerry Conway where he argued against continuity and pushed for periodic reboots. He said that fidelity to continuity is suffocating and that it discourages new readers from becoming comics readers. Too much continuity, in his view, is too much impenetrable history that features old rigid characters. Conway argued that Marvel should reboot all of its books and have the characters in the comics roughly match the characters as depicted in the movies. In that way, kids would be able to read about the characters they love from the movies. I guess Conway is arguing that writers should write stories for new fans, not for the tired old middle-aged guys. You can listen to the podcast here: podtail.com/en/podcast/eating-the-fantastic/episode-99-gerry-conway/Anyway, with that in mind, maybe the strategy that Bendis takes (shake up the characters, ignore much of their past storylines, and just see what fun scenarios can be developed) is the right way to go. Maybe, ultimately, it's the only way to go with characters whose stories never end. |
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Post by sdsichero on Oct 22, 2019 2:38:49 GMT
This is not a defense of Bendis specifically. (I don't read Superman.) But recently, I came across an interesting interview with Gerry Conway where he argued against continuity and pushed for periodic reboots. He said that fidelity to continuity is suffocating and that it discourages new readers from becoming comics readers. Too much continuity, in his view, is too much impenetrable history that features old rigid characters. Conway argued that Marvel should reboot all of its books and have the characters in the comics roughly match the characters as depicted in the movies. In that way, kids would be able to read about the characters they love from the movies. I guess Conway is arguing that writers should write stories for new fans, not for the tired old middle-aged guys. You can listen to the podcast here: podtail.com/en/podcast/eating-the-fantastic/episode-99-gerry-conway/Anyway, with that in mind, maybe the strategy that Bendis takes (shake up the characters, ignore much of their past storylines, and just see what fun scenarios can be developed) is the right way to go. Maybe, ultimately, it's the only way to go with characters whose stories never end. Man, you just got here and now we have to ban you. |
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Post by elikatz on Oct 22, 2019 4:19:37 GMT
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Post by sdsichero on Oct 22, 2019 4:47:09 GMT
Doesn't it feel like "home"? |
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Post by elikatz on Oct 22, 2019 11:19:10 GMT
Doesn't it feel like "home"? It sure does. |
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Post by SporkBot on Oct 22, 2019 13:54:58 GMT
I can see where Conway is coming from, but I'm going to respectfully disagree.  |
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Post by Amoebas on Oct 22, 2019 16:14:08 GMT
I can see where Conway is coming from, but I'm going to respectfully disagree. I can't believe I'm going to say it - but on this - Sporky's not wrong. |
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Post by achilles on Oct 22, 2019 17:05:47 GMT
Who is this "Bendis" person?
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Post by achilles on Oct 22, 2019 17:12:52 GMT
This is not a defense of Bendis specifically. (I don't read Superman.) But recently, I came across an interesting interview with Gerry Conway where he argued against continuity and pushed for periodic reboots. He said that fidelity to continuity is suffocating and that it discourages new readers from becoming comics readers. Too much continuity, in his view, is too much impenetrable history that features old rigid characters. Conway argued that Marvel should reboot all of its books and have the characters in the comics roughly match the characters as depicted in the movies. In that way, kids would be able to read about the characters they love from the movies. I guess Conway is arguing that writers should write stories for new fans, not for the tired old middle-aged guys. You can listen to the podcast here: podtail.com/en/podcast/eating-the-fantastic/episode-99-gerry-conway/Anyway, with that in mind, maybe the strategy that Bendis takes (shake up the characters, ignore much of their past storylines, and just see what fun scenarios can be developed) is the right way to go. Maybe, ultimately, it's the only way to go with characters whose stories never end. Well, you gotta give it to the guy who created two of the best "P"s in comics, Punisher and Power Girl... Now seriously dude, get working on that Punisher/Power Girl crossover. Honestly, since it's a podcast I can't listen to now, I have no idea what he specifically says. Though of course continuity constantly changes, no matter what your intent is. Now I admit making Harley Quinn the most important character in the DCU/DCEU is on a different level than say turning Superman into a jerk, or allowing the world to know he's actually the guy they already all knew he was, (not being idiots, and not all being blind), but were too Canadian to admit to knowing; they all just wanted him to feel better. I mean no one would ever do something the latter. That would be TOO stupid for words. |
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Post by elikatz on Oct 23, 2019 22:31:51 GMT
Yeas ago, Conway's views would have sent me into spasms of anger and indignation. Now, I'm open to reboots, parallel universes, and the like. I just want good stories.
That said, I don't want silly plot devices used to orchestrate reboots (like One More Day).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 23:45:30 GMT
This is the correct answer. |
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