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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 18:38:25 GMT
Interesting. Has Japan Always Had These People? This is IIRC the third case in recent years, of some mutant evil creature like that emerging. There was also the guy who burned down that anime studio with all those poor people inside, and the one who went on a stabbing spree at some sort of convalescent hospital or the like. Is this a recent phenomenon? I always thought Japan was a very safe, well run country where you could walk anywhere even in Tokyo at any time without getting horribly killed.... Or are there lots of flats filled with body parts as a rule? They have a different notion in a lot of ways about death. The suicide rate alone points to that. It can be off-putting.
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Post by herald on Oct 1, 2020 19:14:29 GMT
Well, to steal from someone on one of the after-debate shows yesterday, TAMPING DOWN A PANDEMIC THAT HAS ALREADY KILLED OVER TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND AMERICANS is a liiiiiittle more important than ushering a few more people onto Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. And I say that as a big Disney fan.
Man, some people's priorities are INSANELY screwed up. They're simply unable to figure out that PEOPLE CAN'T WORK IF COVID PUTS THEM ON A VENTILATOR OR SIX FEET UNDER. So YES, it IS best to take these steps to AVOID catching it.
Get this straight: MONEY IS NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN HUMAN LIFE. It's absurd that I even have to point this out.
I might point out Herald, that you don't live here, and don't get to see Newsom and what he does on a daily basis. For example, I doubt closing all California wineries...EXCEPT the ones HE owns, does little to stop a pandemic. That's a taste of what he's been doing, (well, along with his illegal insider real estate deals, and the multi billion dollar bullet train from nowhere to nowhere, his utter ineptness at handling the homeless problem---an issue Californians agree he's failed utterly at. So...yeah, Newsom wasn't handling the pandemic, he was helping himself. As for Disney, the amusement parks in California are the only ones in the world still not open in some form. So you're saying the rest of the world has no COVID? Otherwise there's no reason not to reopen them in some form along the lines of other openings. Social distancing, masks, hand sanitizers. This is by far the highest taxed state in the union, and we get almost nothing for it. And...Newsom wants to raise taxes even more, including property taxes. Which is driving everyone but the very rich or the very poor out of the state, as homeowner can no longer afford the tax nut every quarter. Our "green" energy grid is fine as long as no one uses any power in the state----and it daytime, since it shuts down after dark and we have to buy power from other states---we have the solar power...but no way to store it, no battery farms. As soon as demand jumps, like on hot days, of which California as you'll recall has many...they start rolling blackouts, perfect for those plus 100 degree days, especially for seniors or children who might die from the heat. We have to BUY power from other states...when they have it, as they too are usually hot on those days and have their own needs. And this state, like Oregon and Washington...and indeed most of the dysfunctional states and cities in this country, has been solidly Democrat forever. In fact, Republicans have NO power at all in California; they can't do a thing to even slow the Democrats down no matter what they're doing. The Democrats have a super-majority in state government, meaning the Republicans are bystanders that can do nothing---the point being this and all other messes our state is in, (we have a net population outflow as citizens leave the state after being priced out or driven out by onerous business regulations. So Newsom and his ilk own this. He's keeping Disneyland and the others closed because he can, not because of any science. If Newsom's sooooo terrible and his handling of the pandemic is sooooo bad, why did he JUST THIS WEEK garner a HIGH APPROVAL RATING, hmmm?? And for his Covid response IN PARTICULAR!
And I quote: "...the poll found that Newsom's approval rating is among the highest of any governor the state has had in the past 50 years during the same point in their term."
Face it: You're just another right-winger doing the typical right-wing WHINING. Too many of you expect easy answers to complicated issues. That's why you're so ridiculously susceptible to two-bit con artists like Fuhrer Trump coming in and reducing all the difficult issues our country and world are facing down to cheap, mindless slogans like "Make America Great Again!" and "Law and Order!" Guess what, right-wingers: YOUR "MAGIC WORDS" DON'T SOLVE PROBLEMS.
Indeed, you whine about the homeless issue; so what, pray tell, do you want Newsom and the Democrats to do about the homeless? Have the state government build housing for them? They've been doing that, and it required RAISING TAXES to fund the project. Your fellow Californians VOTED to raise taxes to do this, but -- surprise, surprise! -- YOU'RE WHINING ABOUT THIS SOLUTION WHEN YOU WHINE ABOUT TAXES! And it takes TIME to build this housing, too; you can't expect these structures to sprout up overnight. In the meantime, they've been putting the homeless in hotels, etc., during this pandemic, but I'm going to bet that YOU WHINE ABOUT THOSE EFFORTS, TOO, or you wouldn't be complaining about the homeless issue right now! And again, homelessness is a complicated issue; many of the people are on the streets because of drug addiction, mental issues, etc. The programs to treat these problems so they can recover and find jobs, then homes, ALSO COST MORE IN TAXPAYER MONEY, which, again, YOU'RE ALREADY WHINING ABOUT PAYING.
So come on, TELL ME; since the current attempted solutions are clearly unpalatable to you, what do you expect Newsom and the Democrats to do about the homeless?? What's YOUR "brilliant" suggestion?? Because frankly, I suspect that you're just demanding some easy answer similar to your Fuhrer's foolish notion about coronavirus: The homeless can just "magically disappear" somehow! Could it be that YOU DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION; you just like doing the typical right-wing WHINING?? If you want the homeless problem to be dealt with to the degree that it can, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO KICK IN SOME MORE IN TAXES. It's NOT an easy solution, but it needs to be done, so quit WHINING and do it.
Same goes for Covid. We KNOW, you hate lockdowns; you hate having Disneyland closed for safety. Guess what: NOBODY really likes that! Nobody likes wearing masks just to go in a store, either! Nevertheless, that's the sort of thing needed to hold down Covid cases and deaths until a vaccine is developed and distributed. So EVERYONE in the country has to JUST DO IT, so we can get through this and NOT have to keep having exponentially more cases and deaths, resulting in needing EVEN MORE DRASTIC AND LENGTHY lockdowns to compensate. And that requires that right-wingers MAN AND WOMAN UP. Act like you've MATURED past that "pointlessly rebellious 15-year-olds" mentality that right-wingers love so much; stop WHINING about "YOU CAN'T MAKE ME DO" blah-blah-blah. Just -- and let me know if you've heard this next part before -- GIT 'ER DONE. Do the lockdowns, wear the masks. It's NOT an easy solution, but it needs to be done, so quit WHINING and do it. And again, if you have a better, EFFECTIVE idea of how to get through a deadly pandemic without a vaccine or other cure, by all means, COUGH IT UP. Like I said, nobody LIKES having to stay home almost all the time and wearing masks, but we do what needs to be done. It's part of being an ADULT.
As for the amusement parks in California vs. the rest of the world: Most first world nations are able to do such things because THEY HAVE HANDLED THE PANDEMIC FAR BETTER than the US, with fewer cases and deaths per capita! We have OVER TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DEAD; they don't! After all, they don't have an IMBECILIC, TWO-BIT GRIFTER for a leader, DELIBERATELY playing down the pandemic when HE KNEW IT WOULD BE BAD FROM THE START, leading THE RIGHT-WING CULT he has into refusing to follow lockdowns and wear masks to stop the virus from spreading, trying to CON everyone with LIES like "it will magically go away in the spring" [Guess what, it's FALL NOW, yet the disease is STILL HERE!], babbling about SHINING LIGHT INTO OUR BODIES and INJECTING OURSELVES WITH BLEACH to stop the disease, etc., etc. When the people in your country all FOLLOW SCIENCE and handle the pandemic the CORRECT way instead of the "YOU CAN'T MAKE ME STAY HOME AND WEAR A MASK!! THIS IS 'MUHRICA!! I GOT FREE-DUMBS!!" way, you get the rewards like being able to safely open up theme parks.
And I do hope you aren't suggesting that California should follow the example of FLORIDA just because Disney WORLD is allowed to open. The incompetent Republican governor there has just decided to FULLY OPEN EVERYTHING, foolishly ignoring that the Covid cases are already increasing there and this action is just going to render the state one huge SUPERSPREADER. If you ARE seriously suggesting that, I say LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE IN TWO WEEKS...
And I see you're whining about the solar electric grid while conveniently forgetting that the reason California changed from fossil fuel power to it in the first place is to address CLIMATE CHANGE. You know, an attempt to stop the root cause of the fact that YOUR STATE IS CURRENTLY ON FIRE. Stop ignoring the BLAZING elephant in the room and the ORANGE SKY outside the room, and appreciate that someone IS actually trying to address this issue. Maybe they haven't perfected the grid yet, and they do need batteries to store energy. But California NEEDS to go in this direction, taking actions like that AND the electric car mandate YOU ALSO WHINED ABOUT, so your state can hopefully stop GOING UP IN FLAMES EVERY FRICKIN' YEAR. And again, if you have a USEFUL alternative solution to THIS problem, let's see it.
As for "dysfunctional states," that would be YOUR BELOVED REPUBLICAN-LED STATES most of all. They're the ones that need to be FINANCIALLY PROPPED UP by Democratic states. They're the ones lagging in EDUCATION, BUSINESS INVESTMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE, etc., because -- surprise, surprise -- much more people would rather live, bet their money, have their company headquarters, etc., in California rather than ALABAMA.
In fact, let's get down to the REAL nitty-gritty here: If the red states are sooooo great, and sooooo much better than California and other blue states to you, WHY HAVEN'T YOU MOVED TO ALABAMA YET???!! Again we find you sitting around, WHINING about what you perceive Newsom is doing; WHY NOT SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM FOR GOOD, INSTEAD?? Ironically, this actually would be an EFFECTIVE "easy answer," at least for you personally! You already said that many people are leaving the state, so by all means, FOLLOW THEIR EXAMPLE. Pull a reverse Beverly Hillbillies! Say adios to Los Angeles and embrace the Birmingham! Or is the issue keeping you there the fact that YOU ALSO implicitly understand that California, for all its supposed and actual faults, is STILL a more preferable place to be than Alabama??
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Post by herald on Oct 2, 2020 1:43:04 GMT
Well, to steal from someone on one of the after-debate shows yesterday, TAMPING DOWN A PANDEMIC THAT HAS ALREADY KILLED OVER TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND AMERICANS is a liiiiiittle more important than ushering a few more people onto Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. And I say that as a big Disney fan.
Man, some people's priorities are INSANELY screwed up. They're simply unable to figure out that PEOPLE CAN'T WORK IF COVID PUTS THEM ON A VENTILATOR OR SIX FEET UNDER. So YES, it IS best to take these steps to AVOID catching it.
Get this straight: MONEY IS NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN HUMAN LIFE. It's absurd that I even have to point this out.
It seems Herald, that like your heroes, you don't even understand that the lockdown has been KILLING people left and right, so don't talk about human life. Get it straight, the lockdown was not about that; it was about keeping the load at hospitals down at any one time so they aren't overwhelmed. And in so doing, countless people were killed, the ones who did NOT have COVID, but did have something else deadly, and did not get treatment because of that. Hell, EMTs were told NOT to respond to heart attack cases where the person could be saved easily enough, but would require transport to hospital. In other words, they were killed for this, and they did not have to be. Even Fauci noted that. I may also point out that the use of ventilators has been determined to kill many more people than it helps, (being on one is very hard on the body and can kill in and of itself, especially when you try to remove one). I will give him this, at least he didn't murder upwards of 16,000 people, like the slightly more important Cuomo brother, with his ordering COVID patients be housed with sick old Granny and Gramps in the nursing home, something unbelievably moronic. It seems, Achilles, that like YOUR heroes, you CONVENIENTLY FORGET anything that isn't in your "alternative facts" Bizarro World! Get it straight: The lockdowns ARE NEEDED to contain this disease. It's another one of those FACTS you guys HATE so much. And "even Fauci" STILL says to do the lockdowns when needed, including balking at the Florida governor's idiotic move to open everything up fully JUST THIS WEEK. Again, right-wingers need to BE ADULTS FOR ONCE instead of the usual "mentally stuck at rebellious 15-year-old," and JUST DO THE LOCKDOWNS.
And like the overtanned Fuhrer, all you have to back you up is nebulous words like "countless;" you may as well go ALL the Trump way and pull a "Many people have said..." Whereas I can point out that OVER TWO HUNDRED SEVEN THOUSAND people are DEAD from Covid when I argue that the lockdowns ARE necessary. And scientists are sure that the ACTUAL number of people dead from this thing is EVEN HIGHER, but hey, even that SOLID NUMBER is more quantifiable than "countless." Do let me know when you FINALLY START COUNTING!
As for your typical right-wing DEFLECTION tactic in referring to Cuomo, THE OTHER BROTHER ALREADY COVERED THAT, JUST THIS WEEK! Watch the video below, and then "Talk about THE PRESIDENT [in particular the way HE'S FAILED TO TACKLE THIS CRISIS ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL] the way you talk about his brother," ACHILLES CRUZ!! You babble about Cuomo sending patients into nursing homes, " 'cause that didn't happen ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, right??" FACTS, no matter how much you HATE them, DO MATTER! If you INSIST on lifting your scripts from SYCHOPHANTIC SLIME like Teddy "Can't Even Defend HIS OWN WIFE AND FATHER from His Lord and Master!" Cruz, tell them to come up with DECENT material! And while you're at it, TRY to think of SOME right-wing talking point that was NOT already addressed to the contrary by someone JUST THIS WEEK, okay?? You're falling into a rut!
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Post by herald on Oct 2, 2020 3:18:55 GMT
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Post by sdsichero on Oct 2, 2020 4:57:56 GMT
Whoa, president positive
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 11:15:05 GMT
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Post by sdsichero on Oct 2, 2020 16:42:15 GMT
Damn
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Post by achilles on Oct 2, 2020 17:07:14 GMT
Geeze is right. Who does that? In any event, I expect him to be apprehended quickly, now that Captain America is on the case.
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Post by herald on Oct 2, 2020 17:35:06 GMT
Covid karma ran over his dogma.
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