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Post by noctournem on Apr 24, 2019 18:43:27 GMT
Yes, great keeper of the knowledge of power, speak your wisdom
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Post by chap22 on Apr 24, 2019 18:44:59 GMT
I would not.
Here's my thing with MCU Carol...she was fine as uber-powered in her own movie. And she'll be fine I think as one of the most powerful Avengers. But the second they start trying to sell her as more powerful than Thor, Hulk, or Vision, I'm going to have issues.
Have they not already stated that she's far and away the most powerful hero in the MCU? Not in an actual movie. And I don't recall ever hearing "far and away", more like "she may be the most powerful". And I'm all for her being super-powerful and a badass...Carol should be. Her powerset is pretty ginormous and always has been. Part of the fun of superhero fandom is these arguments over who could win in a fight, and to have those you need more than one or 2 people who can hold their own. But holding her own should NOT mean clearly more powerful than a god, the Strongest One There Is, and an artificial man made up of a combo of Ultron, an Infinity Stone, Stark A.I. tech, and godlike lightning, that can alter its density and fire lasers and oh by the way is also worthy to wield Mjolnir. I can live with arguably more powerful; I can live with possibly winning a tussle given certain favorable conditions (a la Hulkbuster IM beating a clearly off his game Hulk in AoU). But the second it gets stated or shown in canon that she goes way beyond "holding her own" with those 3 and becomes Deus ex Marvel is when my ability to care about her goes out the door. |
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Post by noctournem on Apr 24, 2019 18:46:37 GMT
Have they not already stated that she's far and away the most powerful hero in the MCU? Not in an actual movie. And I don't recall ever hearing "far and away", more like "she may be the most powerful". And I'm all for her being super-powerful and a badass...Carol should be. Her powerset is pretty ginormous and always has been. Part of the fun of superhero fandom is these arguments over who could win in a fight, and to have those you need more than one or 2 people who can hold their own. But holding her own should NOT mean clearly more powerful than a god, the Strongest One There Is, and an artificial man made up of a combo of Ultron, an Infinity Stone, Stark A.I. tech, and godlike lightning, that can alter its density and fire lasers and oh by the way is also worthy to wield Mjolnir. I can live with arguably more powerful; I can live with possibly winning a tussle given certain favorable conditions (a la Hulkbuster IM beating a clearly off his game Hulk in AoU). But the second it gets stated or shown in canon that she goes way beyond "holding her own" with those 3 and becomes Deus ex Marvel is when my ability to care about her goes out the door. I would also like to add she basically made rogue a bad ass too |
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Post by chap22 on Apr 24, 2019 18:59:07 GMT
Indeed.
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Post by achilles on Apr 24, 2019 19:28:37 GMT
Not in an actual movie. And I don't recall ever hearing "far and away", more like "she may be the most powerful". And I'm all for her being super-powerful and a badass...Carol should be. Her powerset is pretty ginormous and always has been. Part of the fun of superhero fandom is these arguments over who could win in a fight, and to have those you need more than one or 2 people who can hold their own. But holding her own should NOT mean clearly more powerful than a god, the Strongest One There Is, and an artificial man made up of a combo of Ultron, an Infinity Stone, Stark A.I. tech, and godlike lightning, that can alter its density and fire lasers and oh by the way is also worthy to wield Mjolnir. I can live with arguably more powerful; I can live with possibly winning a tussle given certain favorable conditions (a la Hulkbuster IM beating a clearly off his game Hulk in AoU). But the second it gets stated or shown in canon that she goes way beyond "holding her own" with those 3 and becomes Deus ex Marvel is when my ability to care about her goes out the door. I would also like to add she basically made rogue a bad ass too Eh, so long as she doesn't overshadow everyone else. |
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Post by sdsichero on Apr 24, 2019 21:30:29 GMT
I don't have a problem with her being the most powerful… but I hope they build in a limitation, some flaw, that all Marvel characters should have.
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Post by noctournem on Apr 24, 2019 23:56:24 GMT
I don't have a problem with her being the most powerful… but I hope they build in a limitation, some flaw, that all Marvel characters should have. Reported Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk |
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Post by TATTOO_JESUS on Apr 26, 2019 2:29:43 GMT
Greatest Cinematic Experience of My Entire Life! I can't wait to go back in the morning to watch it again!!!
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Post by sdsichero on Apr 26, 2019 17:11:27 GMT
I… think I liked it…
However, it is hard to tell because it was one of my worst theater experiences. The family next to me had to young kids. And by young I mean one was a toddler, probably around 3yo. That kid kept fussing and crying and walking in front of me. The parents at first would be talking to the kids, and then pretty much ignored them after about 45 minutes into the movie. So I missed a lot of the dialogue mostly in the beginning hour, but also at spots throughout the movie.
Added to that, I think the AC in the theater was busted as I was sweating by the last act of the movie.
I have to go see it again under better conditions.
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Post by noctournem on Apr 26, 2019 18:04:28 GMT
I… think I liked it… However, it is hard to tell because it was one of my worst theater experiences. The family next to me had to young kids. And by young I mean one was a toddler, probably around 3yo. That kid kept fussing and crying and walking in front of me. The parents at first would be talking to the kids, and then pretty much ignored them after about 45 minutes into the movie. So I missed a lot of the dialogue mostly in the beginning hour, but also at spots throughout the movie. Added to that, I think the AC in the theater was busted as I was sweating by the last act of the movie. I have to go see it again under better conditions. I told you not to go with Zechs and his parents. You're lucky your ticket was for endgame. |
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Post by achilles on Apr 26, 2019 18:36:50 GMT
I… think I liked it… However, it is hard to tell because it was one of my worst theater experiences. The family next to me had to young kids. And by young I mean one was a toddler, probably around 3yo. That kid kept fussing and crying and walking in front of me. The parents at first would be talking to the kids, and then pretty much ignored them after about 45 minutes into the movie. So I missed a lot of the dialogue mostly in the beginning hour, but also at spots throughout the movie. Added to that, I think the AC in the theater was busted as I was sweating by the last act of the movie. I have to go see it again under better conditions. I told you not to go with Zechs and his parents. You're lucky your ticket was for endgame. My Little Endgame? |
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Post by noctournem on Apr 26, 2019 18:40:16 GMT
I told you not to go with Zechs and his parents. You're lucky your ticket was for endgame. My Little Endgame? No, it's for Zechs |
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Post by sdsichero on Apr 26, 2019 18:50:58 GMT
There was a horse in Endgame |
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Post by noctournem on Apr 26, 2019 18:51:47 GMT
There was a horse in Endgame Was it a fake horse? |
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Post by sdsichero on Apr 26, 2019 19:06:09 GMT
There was a horse in Endgame Was it a fake horse? If you mean CGI, yes |
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